{"id":6711,"date":"2018-03-18T13:45:42","date_gmt":"2018-03-18T12:45:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/areopage.net\/blog\/?p=6711"},"modified":"2018-03-18T17:13:03","modified_gmt":"2018-03-18T16:13:03","slug":"33-crucifixion-de-jesus-arte-2017","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/areopage.net\/blog\/2018\/03\/18\/33-crucifixion-de-jesus-arte-2017\/","title":{"rendered":"33 : crucifixion de J\u00e9sus (Arte, 2017)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.arte.tv\/fr\/videos\/069117-002-A\/quand-l-histoire-fait-dates\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-6712\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803181.png?resize=300%2C177\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"177\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803181.png?resize=300%2C177 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803181.png?resize=768%2C453 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803181.png?resize=1024%2C604 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803181.png?w=1112 1112w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p align=\"justify\">Patrick Boucheron revisite l\u2019histoire \u00e0 travers le prisme des grandes dates&#8230; Le temps chr\u00e9tien commence avec la naissance du Christ, mais l\u2019\u00e9v\u00e9nement qui lui donne son sens et qui fait date dans son histoire est la crucifixion. Ce ch\u00e2timent, ordonn\u00e9 par Ponce Pilate, constitue peut-\u00eatre l\u2019indice le moins incertain de l\u2019existence de J\u00e9sus pour les historiens, qui le situent en 33.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"justify\">Voici un document Arte tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressant (r\u00e9alis\u00e9 par\u00a0Denis van Waerebeke, 2017), o\u00f9 l&rsquo;on revient notamment sur les deux dates disput\u00e9es de la crucifixion du Christ, <strong>30<\/strong> ou <strong>33<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Il est question de consid\u00e9rations astronomiques permettant de privil\u00e9gier une date plut\u00f4t qu&rsquo;une autre (<strong>11&rsquo;35<\/strong>). Pour ceux qui voudraient en savoir plus, voir par ex.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.academia.edu\/2518046\/Herod_the_Great_and_Jesus_Chronological_Historical_and_Archaeological_Evidence\">G. Gertoux, <em>Herod the Great and Jesus: Chronological, Historical and Archaeological Evidence<\/em> (2015), pp.67 sq<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803182.png\" data-rel=\"lightbox-gallery-pRd8I9Qt\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-6714\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803182.png?resize=300%2C213\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"213\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803182.png?resize=300%2C213 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803182.png?resize=768%2C545 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/areopage.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/1803182.png?w=951 951w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p align=\"justify\">Et le soleil s&rsquo;obscurcira,<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">la lune deviendra de sang,<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">avant la venue du jour du Seigneur,<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">ce jour grand et glorieux.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">Alors seront sauv\u00e9s tous ceux qui invoqueront le Seigneur.<\/p>\n<p align=\"justify\">&#8211; Actes 2.20-21. <a href=\"http:\/\/areopage.net\/blog\/2018\/03\/10\/bible-detude-semeur-excelsis-2018\/\"><em>Sem<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Patrick Boucheron revisite l\u2019histoire \u00e0 travers le prisme des grandes dates&#8230; Le temps chr\u00e9tien commence avec la naissance du Christ, mais l\u2019\u00e9v\u00e9nement qui lui donne son sens et qui fait date dans son histoire est la crucifixion. Ce ch\u00e2timent, ordonn\u00e9 par Ponce Pilate, constitue peut-\u00eatre l\u2019indice le moins incertain de l\u2019existence de J\u00e9sus pour les [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6711","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-actualites"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3MfBZ-1Kf","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":8374,"url":"http:\/\/areopage.net\/blog\/2020\/02\/23\/the-trial-and-crucifixion-of-jesus-chapman-schnabel-2019\/","url_meta":{"origin":6711,"position":0},"title":"The trial and crucifixion of Jesus (Chapman &#038; Schnabel, 2019)","author":"areopage","date":"23\/02\/2020","format":false,"excerpt":"Initialement \u00e9dit\u00e9 en 2015 \u00e0 un prix des plus dissuasif, cet ouvrage est paru en version r\u00e9vis\u00e9e (et abordable) fin 2019 : D. 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